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Mama Making Podcast
The Mama Making Podcast is a space for moms making impact - in their communities, in their work, and in the everyday spaces that shape the world.
Hosted by Jessica Lamb, this show features honest conversations with women building, leading, creating, and mothering in ways that ripple outward. Each week brings a mix of solo reflections, expert interviews, and real stories from moms navigating growth in every season — from pregnancy and postpartum to leadership, entrepreneurship, advocacy, and beyond.
Because motherhood doesn’t pause growth. It often reshapes it.
Mama Making Podcast
Angele Close | Unburdening Motherhood: Matrescence, IFS, and Healing from the Inside Out
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What if the hardest parts of motherhood weren't signs that you're failing — but invitations to finally understand yourself?
In this episode, Jessica sits down with Dr. Angele Close, clinical psychologist, motherhood coach, and author of Unburdening Motherhood, for a deeply honest conversation about matrescence, the Internal Family Systems model, and what it really means to heal inside of motherhood. From mom guilt and perfectionism myths to the parts of us that get triggered every single day, this conversation is the one every mother deserves to hear — and probably didn't know she needed.
MAIN TOPICS COVERED
- Dr. Angele's personal story — from general practitioner to motherhood coach
- What matrescence is, where the term came from, and why it changes everything
- How every element of your identity shifts when you become a mother — physically, emotionally, neurologically, spiritually, and financially
- Why unhealed childhood wounds resurface alongside parenting
- The myths and cultural messages about "good motherhood" we absorb without realizing it
- The "good enough mother" research by Dr. Donald Winnicott — and why perfection actually harms our kids
- What Internal Family Systems (IFS) is and how it works
- The difference between manager parts, firefighter parts, and exiled parts
- What it looks like to parent from your parts vs. parenting from self-energy
- Practical ways to start working with IFS on your own
- Unburdening Motherhood — what's in it and who it's for
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- Unburdening Motherhood: A Guide to Breaking Cycles, Healing Trauma and Becoming a Self-Led Mom by Dr. Angele Close
- Available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and all major retailers
- Website: drangelclose.com
- Internal Family Systems model — developed by Dr. Richard Schwartz
- The Happy Mama Movement podcast by Amy Taylor Cabez (referenced by Dr. Angele as where she first discovered matrescence)
- Dr. Donald Winnicott's "Good Enough Mother"
HOW TO CONNECT WITH THE GUEST
This episode is sponsored by Collabs Creative - a boutique digital marketing company helping small business owners and creatives tell their story.
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